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To use a metaphor from the book itself: just because you can give something four adamantium claws doesn't mean it's better than something with three.

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They're still gonna hurt when they snikt ya. May 21, Jim rated it liked it Shelves: graphic-novels. Confused, somewhat, by this addition to the series, but then I am not an aficionado. Still, it was interesting and I love the art.

Ultimate X-Men Vol. 2: Return to Weapon X

It seems that characters are constantly changing alliances, but I guess I will get my bearings at some point. One of my favorite characters was in this volume, though, Nightcrawler. May 18, Jim rated it it was ok. Dialogue has not aged well with this volume, and some of the art leaves much to be desired. Oct 12, Natalie rated it really liked it Shelves: graphic-novels. I really liked the plot for this one.

Oct 28, B rated it liked it Shelves: borrowed. Seems like a fine if somewhat meanspirited X-men story. Aug 01, Matthew Willis rated it it was amazing.

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Not only did it not do what I expected, the outcome was actually desirable. Reminds me that writers for Hollywood films are doing it for the masses and not always for a good story. Jul 15, Connor rated it liked it. This one was okay. Definitely a Wolverine-centric story. Mar 22, Nate rated it liked it. The art in this collection seems a little crude and too much of the plot revolves around Wolverine rather than the other individuals on the team.

On the whole this is a step back from the strong beginning in volume 1 of this series. This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. Enjoying their new fame, the X-Men become a little too visible, a little too confident, and in doing so get themselves captured and used.

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Where the first arc was mutant against mutant, this is mutant against government, which makes for an interesting read as the X-Men are forced to kill and use their powers for evil, I guess. So again I am getting stuck on what I should be taking away from this series. Because, really, with the way it is set up it cannot help but comment on both the original stories and the present in which the new series takes place. What does it say about how the times have progressed where the second thing the All New, All Different X-Men did was attack Count Nefaria and his ani-men and the second thing the Ultimate X-Men do is get captured and tortured.

Ultimate X-Men Vol. 2: Return to Weapon X

Interestingly, both stories end with an aircraft blowing up. In the older story, Thunderbird dies killing the Count. His death is seen as pointless, as a waste of life.

There is no sense of heroics that accompanies his death. In Ultimate X-Men, Wraith is saved by Nightcrawler at the last moment ignoring that Storm apparently did kill whoever else was in the helicopter. Then, as Wraith is going to kill Nightcrawler Nick Fury shoots him through the chest. So, for the sake of this we will assume that both Wraith and Nefaria died, even though they probably survive someone. So, yeah, to me that means that Xavier is just as culpable for what happened as Weapon X was.

It is saying that if he had wanted to he could have spared his students the torture and everything and that the only reason he allowed it all to happen was to further his own agenda.


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Talk about megalomania. I mean, he seems more dishonest than Magneto, because Magneto was at least out in the open. Xavier is pulling the strings and settings things up for his own reasons, and still the feel of the series does not fit with what is happening. The hope Xavier and his students speak of comes off as corrupt, and so the whole experience is tainted. As Jean says, mutants are supposed to be better. But I would rather have good honest death and murder rather than the much more morally compromising activities the Ultimate X-Men are engaged in. Right now the writing just has to fit with the actions, and not glorify the complete lack of morality.

Jul 10, Elizabeth rated it did not like it Shelves: settings , science-fiction , torture , comic-graphic-novel , psychic , american , teen , african-american , african-american-major-character. Brutally violent to the point of pointlessness, this guy doesn't seem to realise that 'dark' is about moral ambiguity, not simply everyone being an asshole. When everyone's cunt, there is no ambiguity and it becomes just as boring to read as when everyone's a twee Golden Age goody-two-shoes.


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  4. And it's about as subtle as Charlie Sheen in contract negotiations. I forgave the Dubya car in book 1 and the laying it on with a trowel 'Man is destroying the Earth' clawing environmental message, which ska Brutally violent to the point of pointlessness, this guy doesn't seem to realise that 'dark' is about moral ambiguity, not simply everyone being an asshole.

    kinun-mobile.com/wp-content/2020-06-25/dakoj-best-smartphone.php I forgave the Dubya car in book 1 and the laying it on with a trowel 'Man is destroying the Earth' clawing environmental message, which skates on a membrane-thin level of insight, but this is just too much. It has the paint-by-numbers emotional level of a kid that grew up sucking the lead paint off his toys. It seems to think that if you ramp the violence against the X-Men up to a hundred, you'll get people to care about the characters.

    No mate, you get people to care about the characters by having them build up relationships with each other, so that when something violent happens, it means more than just another bastard dropping off the page. This should be so easy - the characters have been being built up for nearly the past fifty years. You got it made - a half-century of writing including some of the best that ever worked in the comic book business - your standing on the shoulders of giants. But no, not only do you not contribute, you choose to tear down what character development that comes as standard.

    So totally done with this. Whedon's Astonishing line is better than this by several thousand country miles. May 05, Nathan rated it did not like it. This is a book where the art really let's down the story and that's not to say the story has its weak points but the problems with the art overshadow it. So it was about time that Wolverine et al return to Weapon X to deal with his past in this new comic universe and the return is extremely underwhelming.

    I remember reading the first issue prior to picking up the trade paperback and thinking man this looks good, I can't wait for the next issues. Sadly when I picked up the paperback I didn't flip This is a book where the art really let's down the story and that's not to say the story has its weak points but the problems with the art overshadow it. Sadly when I picked up the paperback I didn't flip through it to assure myself of its quality. I don't know if Adam Kubert got lazy but this was awful and apparently continues to be a trend with his art especially in the Ultimate Comics.

    The trend here is that the first issue will get you pumped and then suckers you in for bad artwork that makes the clumsy storytelling less obvious. The artwork just gets lazy as we press on into the story and it just is strange to me that no one saw the panels and said hold on this looks terrible! Well no need to go on about it, keep it on the shelf. Mar 22, Jani rated it really liked it. Little bit background first. I live in Finland. We've had on and off X-men comicbookmagazine since Magazine size have varied through years but it's monthly magazine that usually collects original issues.

    So practically we have bits of stories from here and there all over all mutant related comicbooks.